Great Wall of China History: Mongol Invaders part 5
August 1, 2010 by
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the general name was li ling
and no, he was not forced into battle by wudi
he volunteered for the mission even though he lack the experience
and no, wudi did not execute his family based on his surrender
rather when he found out that li ling was training xiong nu army
inprecise history misguide the people
@canadianfirzen Each one is an excellent point, but I assure you, you did say the Xiongnu were the Huns. The document says that the Huns practiced tying some rope around their noses and squishing it to make themselves look more fiercesome. They aren’t born that way.
@Dictator300 This is my four points: 1. I didn’t say xiongnu and hunz are the same thing. 2. they can’t prove or disprove the hunz were not the xiongnu, and from the records of europeans hunz actually has asian features. 3. hunz and xiongnu are hundreds of yrs apart as well. 4. in that time a lot of things can happen and in that time they can cross Russia.
@canadianfirzen The document says that the Xiongnu language and the Hun are miles apart. The Xiongnu would have had to had travel thousands of miles through modern day Russia. And Russia is barren waste of cold in those days.
Plus, the Xiongnu did not practice self-mutilation as the Huns did unto themselves.
@Dictator300 actually there is only one dynasty that Chin were allowed to criticise the emperor and that is the ming dynasty. There are periods in Japan that the emperor does not have any power, but the generals do… I think Japan just shouldn’t call their ruler the emperor becuz they don’t own an empire…
@Dictator300 where else can this big number of nomadic barbarian come from???
@Dictator300 Xiongnu does not disappear like that…… and I don’t remember what i said i think i am not stupid enough to say Xiongnu was the huns, but the hunz are asian for sure… the only reason there is no solid proof is that hunz didn’t leave any writing documentz… but most ppl agree they came from the steppes of Asia, some even say they are from the plains of China…..
@victortan1 The theory that the Xiongnu being the Huns is still under debate and is never proven. What you say is a myth.
So in other words, what we prize today, they hated yesterday! xD
Oh what irony!
@canadianfirzen Actually that’s false, the Xiongnu disappeared. Scholars believe they are the Huns, but there is no concrete proof behind it.
@AustGuyTang That’s where I disagree. In China, some people actually have the nerve to tell the Emperor to go to hell. Unlike in Japan, where Emperor’s are considered holier than the word Holy.
this is retarded so in the end westerners brought the walls to light -.- never valued but so many dynastys build them. never worked???? the the mongols were forced to live in a land of nothing while the han enjoyed a much better life. this video is retarded…
this is wrong… Han dynasty crashed the Xiongnu…
a subject never turns his back to the emporer
Genghis Khan never conquered China…It was his grandson Kublai Khan who unified China.
good point
It was believed because of this, the Xiong Nu retreated to the North and some migrated to the west which some centuries later become the Hun.
The story said about not trading with the Xiong Nu, seriously what can the Xiong Nu trade with? Loots from the raiding the Han border? Its like robbing your money and saying I exchange these with your goods.
All their goods are not needed by the Han.
Why is the title name Mongol invader while in the show is about the Xiong Nu? Not only they are different tribes, they are in different era as well.
During Xiong Nu’s era, since the Wu Di change the “He Qing” policy to offensive foreign policy, they never maintained the wall anymore. The policy is to attack the Xiong Xu every few years, slaughtering their pple and herds so that they will never grow strong enough to poise a threat to the Han Empire.
The great wall was never built to defend against all barbarian attacks. The barbarians lived in tribes and there are thousands of them. The great wall is to defend against any of these tribes raiding the chinese borders.
Only once or twice in a century, will a great leader unite these tribes to attack and conquer china. These attacks will never be defended by walls alone.